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[00:00:00] JP: Hi, this is J P Newman on investing on purpose. And today we are speaking with my cohost, Ryan Daniel Moran about his Capcom or capitalism conference that is coming up in this episode. Ryan is going to tell us not only about the origin of this conference, but really the deep purpose. Uh, what the conference is about, bringing community and freedom together through money.

[00:00:22] JP: Just a really interesting way to think about it, which Ryan and I go really deep and I’ve never discussed before. I hope you enjoy the episode. Ryan. Hey man. I cannot believe, first of all, you look very nice today. Well,

[00:00:35] Ryan: you know, when you’ve got it, flaunt it. Also this is a Target shirt. It’s 21, you know, clearance

[00:00:42] JP: rack.

[00:00:42] JP: And when I, when I, when I came in today to this, I know I’m leaving, uh, overseas and today’s the last day, but I kind of forgot that you have today. The biggest day of the year for you, Capcom, is exactly 24 hours away. I can’t believe

[00:00:57] Ryan: you’re with me right now. It’s our [00:01:00] Super Bowl, the Capitalism Conference.

[00:01:01] Ryan: This is our sixth one. Yes. So Capcom is, is this week and I’m of all nerves. I bet. And I’m also excited and I have this weird sense of, uh, I can’t even talk, that’s how I feel. Everything that could go wrong has gone wrong, and it’s gonna be fine, it’s gonna be amazing. It’s funny how things just end up working out.

[00:01:25] Ryan: Even though behind the scenes, there’s so much chaos that is happening. A speaker canceled last minute. One of our team members is in the hospital last minute. That’s crazy. And so, uh, some things have happened.

[00:01:36] JP: Does it get easier year by year? You mentioned this is your sixth one. Does it get easier year by year?

[00:01:40] JP: Cause you’ve kind of used to the chaos or is it still, still the same pit of nerve in your stomach every time?

[00:01:45] Ryan: Some things get easier and some things get harder. So the things that get easier. You know, you don’t worry so much about the last minute things that are going to go, like we, again, we had a speaker cancel.

[00:01:56] Ryan: We put something new together. It’s going to be great. It’s going to work out and [00:02:00] everyone’s going to love it. There are also some things that are harder, like, oh, we’ve already done these topics for three years, or we’ve had these speakers. We got to dig a little bit deeper to see how we’re going to outdo last year.

[00:02:12] Ryan: Right. So there’s a lot more planning. Right. As you get. Moving on them. Selling tickets gets easier. Meeting a budget gets harder. So it, some things get easier and some things get harder. The thing that has been hardest for me this year so far is now I give a keynote every year and I’m in such a transitionary phase of my career right now that has been hard for me to keep Like to think about how we’re going to, how we’re going to do something that really wows the audience.

[00:02:44] Ryan: Yeah. And then this man over here, the guy behind the camera, asked me the most amazing question. We were sitting on the couch last week and he asked me this question, or maybe this was two weeks ago, and he says, Hey, what is the, why does the word capitalism matter to you? And I said, [00:03:00] you’re going to love this.

[00:03:00] Ryan: I said, without even thinking, I said, capitalism is the perfect blending of freedom and community. Freedom is your own personal desire to create and to not be held back and to serve. But it’s empty without community, without you knowing the context of how you serve other people, of how you have a place in the world, knowing what your standing is in a group of people.

[00:03:33] Ryan: Freedom is just an empty room. It’s just like an undesigned room with no couch, nothing on the walls, there’s nothing to enjoy, there’s nothing to

[00:03:41] JP: create. And yet so many people chase financial freedom. Yes. But within the, to your point, without the community or the purpose, it’s,

[00:03:48] Ryan: it’s, it’s can be a very shallow they wonder why they’re lonely and depressed and addicts because they, they got one part of it, but they didn’t get the other part of it.

[00:03:59] Ryan: But the [00:04:00] other extreme is just as dangerous because if you have. Community, but you have no freedom, then you just have forced servitude, or you have communism. Which

[00:04:07] JP: is most of the world. The condition of most of the world. That’s exactly right. A dollar a day, two dollars, actually I think it’s two dollars and fifteen cents a day is like considered poverty.

[00:04:15] Ryan: They don’t have freedom. No. Right? They might have community, but they don’t have freedom. And they might actually be net, net happier, but they don’t have the growth. They don’t have the opportunity, they don’t have the ability to create new things. So

[00:04:29] JP: it’s kind of like indentured servitude. Yes. It really is.

[00:04:32] JP: It is, it’s like a slavery of kinds just because the government, the political systems don’t necessarily allow it. I want to take a step back because not everyone knows what Capitalism Conference is or Capcom. Remember I met you at one of your early Capcoms. And I walked into a room of a thousand people and you were the shiny star.

[00:04:49] JP: I’m like, this guy interviews, like, no, you’re shredding. You have the, what was the water guy from Africa? Of

[00:04:55] Ryan: course. I mean, it was water. org,

[00:04:58] JP: water. org, Peter [00:05:00] Diamantis. I mean, this was a couple, but this is our guy,

[00:05:03] Ryan: the water guy. This is embarrassing. This is Charity Water. Charity Water. It’s Charity Water.

[00:05:07] Ryan: Tim. Tim. Tim Urban. Tim Urban? No, he’s wait, but why? This is embarrassing. Well, I just,

[00:05:13] JP: but Charity Water. Here’s what I remember. I didn’t know you. And I walk into your conference and it wasn’t just the Peter Diamantis, you, you, but

[00:05:19] Ryan: sorry, we give to Operation Underground Railroad now, instead, instead of Charity Water.

[00:05:24] Ryan: Everybody was supporting

[00:05:25] JP: Charity Water. We moved over to, oh, you are. So I want to ask you a question for those who don’t know in our audience, what, you know, the capitalism or Capcom, as you call it is. First of all, tell us what it is and why did you start it in the first place? And where is it going for you?

[00:05:37] JP: What is it? Well, I,

[00:05:37] Ryan: I started. The capitalism conference, purely selfishly, because I had outgrown my peer group and I wanted, needed to get a new peer group. And so I just decided that I had 500, 000 in retained earnings in my business. And I decided that I was going to risk it all on a conference where I invited the people that I wanted to learn from to come speak.

[00:05:57] Ryan: And then hopefully I could offset the cost by [00:06:00] selling tickets. And some people would come, but it was purely selfish. Wow. So I was like, I, I, I mean, I’ve outgrown everybody that I hang out with. I have a million dollar business. Wow. That’s, that was literally where I was. I had a million dollar business and I was like, I need to get around some, some higher level people.

[00:06:19] Ryan: And so. You know, you could have just bought

[00:06:21] JP: a ticket to someone else’s conference. I probably could have. You didn’t need to create your own conference and go risk 500, 000. But I’m an entrepreneur, it’s got to be harder.

[00:06:29] Ryan: So, so I just made this list of all the people that I wanted to hang out with and I just started inquiring about their speaking fees and I started booking them.

[00:06:38] Ryan: Gary Vaynerchuk was the first person I booked. That was in 2015. This is before he was. You know, as big as he is now, you probably couldn’t get him for the same speaker fee. Uh, that is true. It’s five x since then, , I called Grant Cardone. That’s a story on its own. Wow. I’d good to hear on that. Yeah, I’ve told that story a couple times.

[00:06:54] Ryan: I, I booked somebody from Robert Herve from Shark Tank. Mm-Hmm. . And, and then it started to become like [00:07:00] a thing, right? I just started talking about it and tickets started to sell. And so then it was like, I should probably hire her for some help for this. And it went so well that I decided to do it again.

[00:07:12] Ryan: And then we rebranded to Capitalism and now it’s been, you know, this is our sixth year doing it.

[00:07:17] JP: Incredible. So what’s in it for you now? You’re six years later in this, you’ve had an amazing guest. I’ve actually, I’m going to Egypt tomorrow because of you, because of Capcom, because of the speaker that you had.

[00:07:27] JP: Uh, Mickey, uh, that we’ve interviewed on the show because of your, because I heard her speak and I was so blown away. I approached her after your Capcom, after her speech at Capcom. If you call it Capcom one

[00:07:36] Ryan: more time, my head is going to explode. How do you, what’s that? Capcom. Capcom. The Capitalism Conference.

[00:07:43] Ryan: Oh, sorry. Oh,

[00:07:44] JP: sorry. I’m in trouble. I’m going to capcom. I forgot, I forgot

[00:07:50] Ryan: charity water. Okay. So we’re even. Capcon.

[00:07:52] JP: See you when. See you when. I got it. I got it. I got it. [00:08:00] Yes. So the Capitalism Conference. So I know how impactful it’s been for me. It’s like, as a spectator, not only have I heard great speeches, not only have I been inspired, but it’s actually like, of course, our.

[00:08:09] JP: We don’t have this podcast, but it’s really changed the trajectory of my life. And I’ve just been like, I’m just the passive, not the internet marketer who’s attended this. So six years later, you’ve totally blown this thing up. You’re getting amazing speakers. So why do you still do it? Like, why go through the stress?

[00:08:23] JP: Why go through the energy of putting together such a well curated conference?

[00:08:27] Ryan: You know, it’s, it’s funny every year we look at each other and we’re like, should we do that again? It’s so much work and it’s so hard to

sell tickets. I mean, now at this point, like we sold out a month in advance, but this was the first time that we were able to kind of effortlessly, not effortlessly, but without pressure, sell out way in advance.

[00:08:49] Ryan: Yeah. It was the least pressured sales pitch I’ve had to do for this. But we work for six months. For basically no

[00:08:57] JP: money. And you can put it on tons of your own money for [00:09:00] deposits, for speakers. Oh yeah. I mean, you’re out, you’re out, like you’re out, I’m sure six digits getting this thing. So

[00:09:05] Ryan: we, we look at each other and we’re like, are we going to do that again?

[00:09:09] Ryan: And we always say, let’s wait three months and see. And so we, if, if Capcom was our primary source of business, like if we had to make it a profit center. We would have every year booked in a year in advance, and we would, but we don’t do that. Our events are about 18 months apart, and that’s because we spend about three months.

[00:09:28] Ryan: Say you’ll never

[00:09:30] JP: do it again.

[00:09:32] Ryan: And then, and then about, you know, four months go by and you’re like, Oh yeah, we’re, we’re doing it again. It’s, it’s like when you forget how awful the first year of having a child is, and you’re like, I want another one. And it’s the same thing with having an event. But what is it for you

[00:09:46] JP: now?

[00:09:46] JP: Because before it was to meet these people. Now, now you meet these people, you interview them. So what’s in it for you now?

[00:09:51] Ryan: Because there is something magical that happens in two days. When you get a group of [00:10:00] entrepreneurs who are focused on growth personally and professionally in one room and you watch them serve each other.

[00:10:06] Ryan: I, JP, more than anything, I want to build a community of capitalists. You know, back to this point about freedom and community. Yeah. Freedom was what I always wanted. And you’ve told the story of when you

started having some financial success. You felt the emptiness on the other side of it. I felt that too.

[00:10:27] Ryan: Yeah. I wanted community more than anything. Yeah. And I felt like anytime I went to somebody else’s event or somebody else’s mastermind, it was just so full of ego that there was no real connection that happened. There was the, there was the posturing connection of like, We should hang out because we can, we can do business together, but something that I’m really proud of at our events is there are people worth well over a hundred million dollars, and there are people who are just starting out, and you don’t know who’s who until the second day.

[00:10:59] Ryan: You [00:11:00] cannot tell who’s from who until people start talking about it, and by then you’ve already hung out. And you’ve broken the ice and there’s no ego separating that. We’re the only community that I know of where people can come up with their idea, get funded and mentored, have an exit, and then come back and serve the next group.

[00:11:18] Ryan: That’s great. And at Capcom, you watch it happen in person. I had some team members that joined during COVID or, you know, between end of 2019 until. 2021 had never seen a Capcom. Alex, you had never seen a Capcom for like two for like a year and a half at least, right? And I’m like, you don’t even know! You don’t even know what happens.

[00:11:42] Ryan: And then all, everybody comes into one room and you just watch the transformations of people and people working together. And so the reason I do it is because. I deep down want community more than anything else. And I think the transformation I’m going through right now. Yeah. Is sort of [00:12:00] owning my position in the marketplace is I’m the pastor for entrepreneurs.

[00:12:04] Ryan: I think that’s a

[00:12:04] JP: great way to sit around. I totally see you the same way by the way. I,

[00:12:07] Ryan: I, I. I’ve always kind of run from that, resisted

[00:12:10] JP: that. I, when you say it, I’m like, of course you are. I’m the, I’m the, I’m just the

[00:12:13] Ryan: pastor for entrepreneurs. I think you’re, I think that’s right. And I, and I, I didn’t want to like own that, but it’s when I’m happiest is when I just embrace the fact that my part of, at least part of my purpose here is to, is to bring that group of people.

[00:12:31] Ryan: Together and to, to serve that flock.

[00:12:34] JP: Yeah. You know, right. I realized you’ve heard me say a bunch of times, like the story about how I came to your first CapCon conference. Yeah. I’m getting good at this and I keep saying what, how you blew me away with your interviewing style, but I realized that from this conversation, it wasn’t your interviewing style.

[00:12:49] JP: It was your authenticity. It was your, it was because that you came from a place that wanted to create a community where a lot of times you go to these conferences and they’re just trying to like. You know, it’s like hype, hype, hype, [00:13:00] hype, hype, hype, hype, like seven digits to this. It came from a different place.

[00:13:04] JP: So I think maybe the secret sauce that I just didn’t really realize of why what makes you so good, it’s the intention of where you’re coming from. I mean, you are a good speaker and a good interviewer, but it’s also intention. And when you, so this is the first time in this conversation when I really, we’ve never talked about freedom and community being like, I love that.

[00:13:21] JP: I’ve never really heard of that reference before and I think it’s powerful and I think it’s amazing. So two

[00:13:26] Ryan: points to that. One. You have, you have been a good friend of telling me when I get out of alignment there, right? Because you said a lot of times you see people like the seven steps to yeah And you’ve you’ve seen videos of me to be like that was a little seven steppy Ryan.

[00:13:41] Ryan: Yeah, and I’m like, oh you’re right I don’t know why I go into that. Yeah, but I know you’re right and it’s because I am That’s when I like when I feel disconnected from community or I forget I value community. Yeah That is when I go into like, here are the four secrets to [00:14:00] make, and it just falls flat and I look like everybody else.

[00:14:03] Ryan: But when I’m thinking… Because that’s what, that’s

[00:14:04] JP: what the rest of the

[00:14:05] Ryan: world is paddling. Exactly, yes. Now, this idea of freedom and community merging together, you’re gonna love this, JP. I was at an event when I was 21 years old. I had just graduated college. This was 2009 or 2010, and there were 25 people at this event, and there was someone who came in and ran the whole group to this exercise.

[00:14:30] Ryan: I don’t even remember what it was called. It was like called the Heart’s Purpose or something like that. Mm-Hmm. . And it was writing down all of the memories that you had. In which you got goosebumps and you felt like this is how the world is supposed to be. And then the same way you wrote down all the experiences you could think of that made you just like, like resistant, this isn’t how it’s supposed to be.

[00:14:53] Ryan: And in weaving those together, you shared your list with the group that was around you. And you kind of [00:15:00] help them, they help you pull out these words, descriptive words, it sounds like this is important to you. And you’d either be like, no, that’s not, that’s not how I describe it. You would sort of flesh out the words that triggered you or that made you feel like everything is right in the world.

[00:15:13] Ryan: And some people came out with these very descriptive. Sentences that were like, I’m committed to the liberation of women in Ghana, Africa. It was things like that, right? Mine was very simple. It was, I’m committed to freedom and community. And that was it. And I haven’t thought about that exercise for 10 years.

[00:15:36] Ryan: And then when Alex over here asks me, why is capitalism matter to you? I’m like, it’s the perfect combination of freedom and community. And it was like, oh, that is, oh, that’s it. That’s like, that’s the, okay. I resonate with this 100 percent and now I want to bring that. To my events and to my podcasts and to everything that I do, you know, Ryan, [00:16:00][00:16:00] JP: the fact that you got the, just the URL for capitalism.

[00:16:03] JP: com and you’ve told me the story once of how you did it, but isn’t it interesting that you got it? Like of all people, like that is a very valuable thing. And you were just in the right place at the right time. You bought it, you know, at a time when you can get it. But now when you tell the story about the freedom and community, it’s like, of course you got it.

[00:16:19] JP: Well, yeah, like, right. Because. At 21, you dream this up, whether you knew it or not, you know, it’s been a little weird, but like… You

declared it a 21 and now you’re just saying and of course what channel you can do it to the church as a pastor You could write through basically through capitalism through economic currency as a

[00:16:35] Ryan: pastor, too And if I had stayed in the church that over values community versus abundance abundance, right?

[00:16:43] Ryan: I would probably be a very, like, I would be the Joel Osteen who’s preaching like a prosperity gospel, right? And I’d be blackballed by everybody that I grew up with, but for me the, the perfect marriage of growth and joy is [00:17:00] when you are fully plugged in. And you’re operating from abundance. And those two things go so hand in hand.

[00:17:07] Ryan: And if you starve one from the other, you lose both.

[00:17:10] JP: Yeah. Um, Yogananda, who’s a great guru, always said if you could take the wealth from the West and the spirituality from the East and put them together, you’d have the perfect society, the perfect community. Which is a lot of what I think what you’re saying right now.

[00:17:24] JP: It’s like, you need both. It does take currency. It does take money. It’s just the reality. If you’re in scarcity, it’s hard to do a lot. But we know that without the, the grounding of a community, it’s called spirituality connected, connectedness. They’re both empty. They’re both hollow apart, but together they create the perfect combination.

[00:17:41] JP: And you know,

[00:17:41] Ryan: part of me, part of me wants to say, well then is that, is it just contrast? Meaning when you feel deprived of one, you create more of the other and you go back and forth. But I don’t think that’s a, that’s helpful for me to think about. Like I have to assume that you can have an abundance of both.

[00:17:59] Ryan: [00:18:00] Opportunity, freedom, and community. I, and, and I think that when you see yourself in the context of a group of people, you serve more, you give more, you create more and therefore you receive more, but when you pull yourself out of that and you’re operating alone, you instead project, like you say, I need to create something great.

[00:18:23] Ryan: In order to be seen, recognized, to be great, whatever. But it’s plugging back into that community in which you’re actually able to do that. And so I have to believe that you can have an abundance of both of those two sides of the coin. And I think that is what capitalism provides. I think capitalism is the opportunity for us to create in the service of others and create abundance in the process of doing so.

[00:18:51] Ryan: Completely. That, to me… is what capitalism is, whereas in, we tend in the West to think about it as freedom for [00:19:00] ourselves and its dissenters would say that it is the egoic drive taking from, taking off the backs of the less fortunate. I say no. That is, that is It’s the removal of one of those two very important factors of freedom and community that capitalism so beautifully brings

[00:19:17] JP: together.

[00:19:18] JP: Which is the very spirit of the show, right? If you think investing on purpose, like when people ask me, what is this, this whole purpose of why we’re doing this show? And it’s really just to awaken people and inspire people that doing the right thing purpose sustainability creates outsized returns.

[00:19:31] JP: That’s kind of the short answer I have. And that’s exactly what you’re saying. It’s not one or the other. When blended the right way. And

[00:19:38] Ryan: you, you’ve said that. When you were, when you started to make money, you felt like there was a loss, uh, you didn’t, you didn’t have the community side as full as you wanted it to be.

[00:19:49] Ryan: And Thrive has become this example of how you can create outsized returns when you focus on the impacts that you make. Did, did, I’m [00:20:00] guessing that went hand in hand somewhere. Like that’s a part of your story that I don’t have totally. filled in my brain was, I know you went out looking for more purpose in community, but when you started bringing that into Thrive, is that when people really started buying in?

[00:20:15] Ryan: To what you were doing.

[00:20:18] JP: It’s a good question. I don’t know. I mean, I would say like the path looks like I needed to make money. I had kids. Diapers had to be paid. I don’t know that I had. I was more on the financial side. I need, I need so much gas. I’m running on a quarter tank, an eighth of a tank of gas. I gotta.

[00:20:33] JP: Got to bring home the bacon. That’s all I, so I didn’t have the luxury of thinking about, I didn’t think I had the luxury of thinking about it. It’s like, I had to be transactional. I had to get it done. Um, with some abundance,

even early on, I, we talked about this earlier with a little bit of abundance. I realized it wasn’t, it wasn’t scratching the edge because money alone without community.

[00:20:52] JP: And that really is what started the, the journey of the pathway to look for purpose and to look for community. And then it got really clear to me [00:21:00] because there’s, there’s communities and lots of people. So all of a sudden for some people, you start making money. Your community might be, I want to be with other people who own Porsches.

[00:21:06] JP: I’m going to join the, the Porsche club. And that’s a, that’s a community, right? And some people golf and that’s, that’s a community, country clubs or communities. That just wasn’t my community. Okay. So, so there’s, when you, when you

[00:21:16] Ryan: define community, what does that mean? Well, what I’m looking for here is, was there a point for you?

[00:21:20] Ryan: Because I, I’ve, I’ve had this. Where you, you’ve realized that pursuing more money isn’t going to fill up whatever it is that you’re looking for. Definitely. And then there’s a sense of like, I don’t even care anymore, I’m just gonna find out what lights me up. Like I’m just gonna give to other people, like I’m just gonna serve.

[00:21:41] Ryan: It’s almost like you get smashed around, smacked around enough to where you’re humbled enough to serve. Yes.

[00:21:46] JP: And, But I don’t think it’s everyone’s journey. I think if you’re lucky you get to go through that journey, cause, Or having the awakening or the awareness. It sucks, right? It’s painful to be slapped around.

[00:21:55] JP: I’ve done it too, it’s horrible. I’m, So

[00:21:57] Ryan: when you, you, you did have moments in [00:22:00] which you were like, okay, I’m going to think about service and creating value for other people. Was that actually a turning point for Thrive?

[00:22:09] JP: I was already starting, starting to get momentum, but the company has grown 10X since then.

[00:22:14] JP: So I couldn’t tell you the exact moment. There was some rocket fuel started, but then it grew 10X. Was it because I changed the name of the

company? I literally changed the name of the company, rebranded the company. Was it the name? Was it the spirit or was it my time? I don’t know, but if you kind of look at the law of attraction, coming at it from a different place, rather than coming from this transaction, I got to make money to bring, bring home enough money to pay the bills, where you can get to the point where you kind of get to surrender that to what am I actually doing every day?

[00:22:43] JP: Can I serve something bigger and not just like where I’m actually creating? A creative outcomes for everybody, for all the stakeholders and not just for myself. It was a huge paradigm shift. The company’s grown hugely since then. So I don’t know it was the chicken or the egg, Ryan, to be honest.

[00:22:58] Ryan: Do you have, [00:23:00] I mean, you have a nonprofit, you throw these investor appreciation parties.

[00:23:07] Ryan: I don’t, I can’t imagine there being investors in that room who aren’t in there because they believe that they’re participating in something much bigger than just. Getting 16 percent year over year. I would think that’s right. Like there’s, I think there is, there are people there, like, because when you speak about the broader mission of Thrive, people resonate with that, and even if it were to make 13 percent versus somebody else going 19%, they’d say, I still feel better about being.

[00:23:43] Ryan: And I, I have witnessed that being at some of those parties and meeting some of your peers, and it seems to me that when you had, and so I would assume that when you had that flip to think about more creation, that you were able to go bigger. Because of the people [00:24:00] that you attracted to you.

[00:24:01] JP: I think that’s absolutely true.

[00:24:02] JP: You know, it’s weird, Ryan. I don’t think about it. I just almost don’t want to think about it. Okay. Because then it gets transactional. Oh, that’s a good point. So I don’t want to be like That’s a good point. Then it kind of puts a motive to it. Oh, if I do this, then like I, the messaging will get me this. I, maybe in some ways I purposely almost put like a little firewall.

[00:24:16] JP: But as you say it, I would say

[00:24:17] Ryan: that’s, that’s true. Okay. So this is what I’m going to take away from that. This week. is Capcom. And I know internally I’m going through this

transition that you’ve talked about before, right? I’ve had this point in which I just want to create, right? And I just want to serve, and I just want to do well by my people.

[00:24:42] Ryan: I feel that happening, but you are so right that if I think about it, it does become transactional. So I am going to, just for this week, allow myself to just think about creating an amazing experience for everyone who’s going to be there. I think that’s great. Without trying to make it [00:25:00] something, without trying to see where it’s going, and if I go in that direction, because I probably will, I’ll rein it back in and remember this conversation.

[00:25:09] Ryan: I think it’s great. And I’m just going to show up and think about how I can give to this community. With, you know, pour as much of my cup into theirs. And I suspect that my cup will stay full as a result

[00:25:24] JP: of that. I think your cup will get much fuller. I really do, Ryan. I want to let you know from this conversation, um, I’m really excited about this idea.

[00:25:32] JP: I love the idea of not only just the, uh, the pasture of capitalism. I’d love that, that, that title and even your reluctant story to get there. But what you’re providing and also you’re the right person to provide it. It wasn’t a coincidence that it’s you. It wasn’t a coincidence that you had that thing.

[00:25:47] JP: You’re a 21. It wasn’t a coincidence that you got capitalism. com. It all is this beautiful journey that I actually think we’re in a moment right now, Ryan, a day before your show, that it’s the perfect, whether you’re just with your declaration, you are the right person [00:26:00] to create this wonderful community for everybody.

[00:26:02] JP: And you’re the right person and from it, your cup will go. We’re going to laugh about this. We’ll listen to the show again and you’re going to laugh. Cause I, I wholeheartedly believe and feel that’s the case.

[00:26:11] Ryan: Well, thank you very much. Well then, uh, peace be upon you. Peace be upon you. May the grace of God always be in your favor.

[00:26:20] Ryan: Um,

[00:26:20] JP: what do you say? What do you say to Star Trek? Nanu Nanu or something? Live and prosper, Ryan Moran. Live and prosper. I’m still learning the whole pastor for entrepreneurs

[00:26:32] Ryan: thing.

[00:26:33] JP: I’m still getting my bearings here. I just figured out that that’s my purpose. That’s awesome. We just witnessed the birth, ladies and gentlemen, of Ryan Daniel Moran.

[00:26:42] JP: All right. It’s getting weird. Thanks for watching.

[00:26:45] Ryan: Should we, should we squirt some water at you? No, we just go deuces. Deuces.